Self-Brain Surgery, Overcoming Trauma, and the Courage to Change How You Think with Dr. Lee Warren

Episode Notes

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What if healing doesn’t start with managing your emotions—but with understanding how your brain responds to fear, grief, and hope?

In this episode, Dr. Alison sits down with neurosurgeon, author, and Iraq War veteran Dr. Lee Warren to explore trauma, loss, faith, and the brain’s God-given capacity to change. 

After unimaginable loss, Dr. Warren shares how “self-brain surgery”—learning to notice and interrupt destructive thought patterns—helped him restore hope and agency without bypassing grief.

This conversation will help you understand:

—Why most of our thoughts are repetitive, negative, and often untrue

—How trauma wires automatic thoughts—and how those patterns can change

—How faith and neuroscience meet in practical ways

—The difference between the mind and the brain, and why that distinction matters for healing

This episode offers hope without shortcuts. It honors the reality of suffering while reminding us that our past does not get the final word — not neurologically, not emotionally, and not spiritually.

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TRANSCRIPT

Hey everyone and welcome back to this week's episode of The Best of You. This week

marks the very first full week of something new we're doing here, the best of you

every day. And if you've been listening along, you know that each weekday we've been

slowing down together, anchoring ourselves in scripture and letting it orient how we

live and move through the day. I've needed these morning devotions.

They have helped me so much. I've wanted something like this for a long time,

right? To really let scripture anchor my day, which I've done a lot of in the

past, but also bringing that psychology lens because there is so much good psychology

in scripture. And it's been amazing for me and I hope it's also been helpful for

you. Here's the thing, Thursdays don't change, right? These are still our space, our

day to go deeper together, to stay with the harder questions to explore what it

looks like to live out this kind of wisdom in the midst of our suffering, of our

grief, of real complexity, of relationships, right? We're going to bring in experts

continually on Thursday as well as sometimes I'll do solo episodes going deeper into

how we grow, how we heal, how we apply all of this wisdom to our actual lives.

And today's conversation does exactly that. My guest today is Dr.

Lee Warren. Dr. Warren is an award -winning author, a practicing neurosurgeon, and an

Iraq war veteran. He's amazing. He's just a delightful human being,

and I've loved getting to know him this past year. Outside of the operating room,

his writing and teaching explore the powerful intersection of neuroscience and faith,

offering a vision for real embodied transformation. He's the host of the Dr.

Lee Warren podcast, which I've gotten to be a guest on. He also writes the self

-brain surgery letter on Substack, where his work consistently helps people understand

how the way we think shapes the way we live and how renewal is not just spiritual,

but deeply neurological as well. Lee's story

his scientific expertise and his faith into an integrated, honest reflection on

suffering, healing, and hope. He's got a brand new book coming out in just a few

weeks. It's called The Life Changing Art of Self Brain Surgery, which is available

now for pre -order. And if you pre -order the book, Leah is offering some truly

incredible bonus gifts as a thank you. So these are resources you don't want to

miss out on. And we'll link to that pre -order information in the show notes so you

can learn more about how to get them. If you've been joining me each morning for

Dr. Lee Warren.

I'm so thrilled to just get this chance to, you know, I've gotten to know your

work a little bit through your books and through conversations on a conversation on

your podcast. But I would love to start,

Lee, on kind of some really tough parts of your own life that has led you to this

work, especially this latest book. And to introduce you a little bit in your story

to my audience, you surfed in Iraq. How long ago was that,

Lee? I was in Iraq in 2005. Okay. So 20 years ago.

And pretty intensely, you were a surgeon. And when we talk about PTSD,

this is sort of the old school definition of PTSD.

trauma, loss, grief. Before we dive into the incredible wisdom that you've gained and

that you have for us, take us back a little bit in time. What were you sitting

with in those days? What would we have seen in your heart,

in your faith, in your thinking back then? Well, I think it was a little bit of a

staged evolution, Alice.

of my house and never talked about it and just kind of came home from the war

went to a divorce got out eight weeks after I was in Iraq I was operating in

private practice in Alabama like out of the military and operating and so I stuffed

all that in there and then went on with my life and and try to just work work

through it right because that's what I thought you're supposed to do just work hard

God'll reward you and Then met Lisa, remarried, blended our families,

did all that stuff, started a private practice. My life seemed to be going better.

Everything felt pretty happy. And then in 2013, our son Mitchell, who was 19, was

stabbed to death. And so right when I thought I had finally sort of gotten back to

where, you know, I liked God and he liked me again, I lost my son.

And basically At that point, it felt like I didn't understand what was true anymore.

Because all the things I thought had been true, that if I worked hard enough, it

would work out. And God would, you know, forgive me and I would be okay as long

as I did all the right stuff. All of a sudden, nothing felt true anymore. And it

didn't feel like it was possible for me to believe the things that I had previously

previously believed. And so that's where I was, I think, after that event happened.

It's such a vivid metaphor in a way of literally putting all of your war stuff in

the garage. Yeah. Just tucking it away, figuring if you just got back on the

treadmill, you could earn God's favor in a sense. Yeah. So when you go through this

moment, it sounds like after the loss of your son, it obviously, in and of itself,

a tremendous grief.

I felt like it was back on track. But I hadn't really, I think, figured out the

path to how your life can feel right and be right. I just figured out an operating

system, sort of how to make it work. And so I think when I lost Mitch, really all

the wheels fell off of every coping mechanism I had, everything that I thought was

true. And I think I just had sort of bandaged it up enough to make it work,

but after midstead, it didn't work anymore. Nothing did. What were some of the

thoughts or, you know, can you give us a sense of what happened in your body,

in your mind, in those moments of despair, spiritually, mentally, emotionally,

physically? Interesting that you say body. I mean, we both work around people that

have heard enough to No.

of shingles on my right shoulder blade, which I had never had. And we know now

that shingles is stress -related sometimes. And now, so here 12 years later, like any

time I'm thinking about Mitch or I'm having a reminiscent kind of movement, my right

shoulder blade hurts. And it comes back, that sort of post -herpetic neurologist call

it, that pain syndrome, really does come out in your body. And so I grinded all my

molars in half. I broke a bunch of teeth from grinding my teeth at night. And so

all that stuff was happening.

think that I had ever really thought that God,

let me rephrase that. I think the normal question that everybody has when they go

through something hard, where is God in this? Is there really a God and this does

God love me? I had all those normal questions too, even though I would have said

before that I didn't believe that God allows bad things to happen to us because

he's punishing us in some way. I wouldn't have believed that. But then all of a

sudden, I was feeling it again, and I did believe it. Yeah. Does that make sense?

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Yeah, so this is where your expertise as a neuroscientist is fascinating to me. It

reminds me, Lee, we talked on your podcast after I had a stroke in those moments

when it was happening, my thought life surprised me because I went to things I

don't actually believe. To your point, I thought, is God smiting me?

Yep. And if you were to take me on a...

That's right. And this gets out what you tease apart as the difference between the

mind and the brain, I think. Yeah, that's right. So I want to get into that,

into the meat of this, because I think this is your ability to reflect on that as

a neuroscient, you know, as a literal brain surgeon is so amazing to us. But before

we get there, just how, what was the first flicker of hope? because I could

imagine, given everything,

model so it's not sustaining this trauma i could imagine somebody losing their faith

you know just this is the moment some what how did you have a flicker of hope

that your brain could be rewired and and they're in your so could your faith you

know this is one of those um there's a verse in psalm 34 that says sub 34 18

that says god is close to the hearted. Yes. And this is one of those places where

that promise turned out to be true. And it's interesting that he showed up,

God, showed up in a way that I as a neuroscientist could understand him that he

was showing up. And I'll tell you that story. So we worked, Lisa, my wife, ran our

practice at the time. And our office was at the Auburn University campus in Alabama

in a building where they do functional brain MRI research and so there's this fancy

research machine that they had where you could image what happens in your brain when

you think certain thoughts right and so after Mitch died a few weeks later we had

to go back to work and we ran our own practice and had a bunch of employees and

it was just time we had to go back to work and a few days after that there was

a meeting that was on my schedule where we had to go down and watch some of this

research happening that put research subjects in the scanner and they were asking

them questions through headphones and telling them to think different thoughts than

they had been thinking before. And so here I am in my hopeless, bereaved state, not

wanting to be back at work, but I had to. You know, it's financial obligations and

whatnot. You've got to go back to work at some point. So I'm in this building with

my wife standing next to me. We're watching this research play out and I'm sitting

there with all my thoughts about I'm never going to feel better than I feel right

now. And, you know, what kind of dad loses a child and all those things

be anxious, be grateful instead. Like when you think different thoughts, your body

and your life will do different things. And for me, in that state of being a brief

father, that felt like hope to me. And the reason it felt like hope was because my

traditional neuroscience training, and yours too probably, was that you are the

product of your brain activity, that you get your brain from your genes and your

traumas and your parents and your past history. And that when your brain doesn't

work right, you don't work.

And that started this process of me investigating things on the science side that I

believed that were now being proven to be maybe not accurate, things that I believed

on the spiritual side that may have been altered because I wasn't thinking about

them correctly. And then looking at what God actually said and trying to find

promises that seemed to be true now. And that started feeling like hope. And every

day when I started pursuing that path, I found that science and faith began to

align themselves and that neuroscience actually was pointing to.

so much of that is arriving like you're saying at a more robust, integrated

understanding of the science and what scripture is teaching us. That's beautiful.

Yeah. There are several 10 commandments in the book. This is because it reminds me

of what you're getting at. And they're very powerful, even to just read them in the

table of contents. I thought these are really powerful. I must relentlessly refused

to participate.

Well, I think it goes back to that idea that I said before that most of us have

accepted this idea, at least on some level, that our lives are formed out of the

way that our brains work, right? Yeah. And so the research is pretty clear now if

you actually look at 21st century neuroscience, especially imaging research, and see

what we're actually learning about the fact that you can control what your brain

does by changing what you think about. Yeah. And then there's all this research

recently, especially Daniel Lehman and Jeffrey Schwartz, and a bunch of people have

done this good research that shows that about 80 % of the things that we think on

a given day aren't true. Yeah. Just these negative thoughts that pop into your head.

And about 90 % of our thoughts are repeats of the same thoughts that we thought the

day before. And so, and not only thoughts, but about 80 % of the things that we

feel turn out to be not accurate to anything that's really happening in the world

around us. And most people don't know, as you and I, I'm sure you've told your

listeners all the time, the human brain can't discern between something that's

actually happening and something that you're just imagining or thinking about or

worrying about. And so that means that most of the things that we think and feel,

in a culture that says we're supposed to trust them and follow our heart and live

your truth and all these things, most of the things that we think and feel actually

aren't true. Yeah. And all of them.

turned out to be the case and it hurt my relationship or it caused this problem in

my life so then if you can see that you've done that before then you can get some

data that says hey when i think and feel something i ought to develop some sort of

process to discern whether that thought and feeling is true before i react to it

yeah that would help me and so that idea that relentlessly refuse to participate in

your own demise is this idea don't commit malpractice against yourself like it's

harmful to you when you react to thinking and feeling that's not true because it

creates trouble for you that you have to then unwind and deal with instead of just

dealing with the thought and feeling before you reacted to them right it's so

powerful the way you really break that down because there's two things going on

there's my initial reaction and then there's a you use that word discernment and

then there's my ability to discern to step into a different part of my brain and

actually evaluate the truth of that and it's so simple but of course it's true if

I think about my thoughts you know for those of us who have a harsh inner critic

I talk a lot about you know a lot of my you know my internal thoughts are oh I'm

so stupid I'm such a moron you know that's a big one for me which which isn't

true, but it is, you know, so it affects the way we think negative thoughts about

ourselves. It affects the way that we think, make assumptions about other people. So

it, so, so break this down because you really are saying that this brain surgery,

this is the self brain surgery that we have to do on herself and you're saying

it's this isn't a metaphor this is actually a mechanism for personal change so take

us into that how do we actually do this with ourselves right this happened this

insight happened shortly after that day in the MRI scanner like it dawned me one

day I think it was the Holy Spirit that said okay if we're not actually just the

product of our brain activity and if we, in fact, can influence our brain activity

by changing what we think about, then that's essentially exactly what I do when I

go to the operating room and take out a brain tumor or drain a hemorrhage in the

brain, treat some stroke. I'm intentionally changing the structure of my patient's

brain for the purpose of improving their life in some way or maybe saving their

life. That's surgery. And we know now that in real time when you change from one

thought to another, your brain, my friend Daniel Lehman says your brain is always

and synaptic connections in your brain. They're real. They're literally real. They're

literal. That's why I say it's not a metaphor. When I say you deciding to operate

this process, what we call it neuroplasticity, by the way, the neuroscientist,

neuroplasticity is this fact that the brain is not stuck in a particular way of

being, but it literally changes its own structure all the time. Every day, all the

time your brain is changing. It's never the same brain two days in a row. The

problem is, going back to what

If we're not aware that we have agency in that process, Allison, we begin to

believe this is just how I am. Yes. And the other thing that's interesting is the

brain is running constantly this thing. I call it consent to automate. Your brain

does this thing where it says something to you that you hear in your head in the

form of a thought that you think is a real thought. Your brain is basically saying,

hey, the last time you felt this or thought this, we did this in response to that.

Is that what you want us to do this time?

to be inherent characteristics of who you are. And we start to identify with that

type of thinking and feeling and behaving in our lives instead of recognizing that

it's just habits that we formed because of this automation process, right? And so

then the big, the big to -da moment for me was when I realized that humans are the

only things that God made that have this stagnate, you know, this idea to think

about what we're thinking about instead of just thinking those thoughts or reacting

to them. Yes. Humans are the only ones that have that ability. And we're the only

ones that have the second gift of what we call selective attention. Like you can

literally decide, I don't want to pay attention to this show I'm watching. I want

to scroll on my phone instead. You can literally decide that. I don't want to think

about losing my son right now. I want to think about this brain surgery that I'm

performing So I don't kill my patient. And you can decide I'm going to divert my

mental resources to this other thing. And so if you can understand that you have

agency to make that choice, to think about what you're thinking about and to think

about one thing and not another thing, then you are leveraging neuroplasticity to

direct those structural changes in ways that can start to help you and not to hurt

you. And so the big insight moment for me was that this process is always

happening, whether you decide to control it or not. and because it's all

tomorrow than you did yesterday because you don't have to leave it doesn't have to

be the way it's always been because you can direct that in real time and your

brain will respond every brain is designed to respond in this way

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of the listener who's been through a lot of trauma or whose brain,

because of stuff in childhood, has formed around these neural pathways that are self

-defeating or that are shaming or that are doubting God,

right? And I don't want to minimize how challenging that can be.

When those pathways have formed the grooves, it can be,

it takes some effort to exercise the agency we have. Could you walk us through how

you applied that in your own life? Well, I think the first thing I would say, just

as an aside, is as a neurosurgeon, I am not an expert at cardiology or

endocrinology or lots of other areas of medicine. So when I have a patient that has

a problem in an area in which I'm not an expert, I consult with an expert in that

field. So I call a cardiologist if my patient has a heart problem because I want

to make sure my patient is getting everything they need. So if you're going to say

that I want to become a self -brain surgeon, I want to take care of myself in this

way, just recognize that there are some times when you're not equipped or educated

in certain areas and you need some outside help. And that's where I think therapy,

psychiatry, medical professionals, health care sacrifice.

happening there is what you're describing where you have an expert help you relay

those pathways. Is that accurate to say? Yeah. Okay. That's right. Just to say that

you're not responsible for doing this all by yourself. Yes. You can build a team of

people to help you. Yes. Because I don't want people to say, oh, there's, he's

saying that I'm just supposed to, you know, gut it out and do it all myself.

That's not at all what I'm saying. Yep. And I didn't do that. So good. I had

this, this experience.

After we lost Mitch, we had another child at home still. She was a junior in high

school at the time. And after she graduated, it became just about impossible to be

in the house anymore that we had raised Mitch in. It was so hard. I'd go down to

his room. And I remember, Alice, in this moment, I used to go down to Mitch's room

and go into his closet because I could smell him on his clothes. And I remember

the day that I couldn't smell him on his clothes anymore because he'd been gone so

long. And it was just devastating, right? So it just got to be where being in the

house was really hard. And we ended up deciding to take a job in Wyoming. And we

moved from Alabama to Wyoming thinking, you know, we'd get a fresh start and all

that stuff that people think. We don't think about the fact that he just follows

you to Wyoming. So he goes with you. But shortly after I got to Wyoming, I ended

up on the board of directors of this hospital. and we had a meeting one day.

because it had hurt his business and she was very patient with him and she let him

rant and rave and finally she said look what is it that you want me to do for

you how can I help you move past this and let's find a way to work together and

he said well I want you to not buy this hospital I want you to undo the business

deal and unwind it because it's hurting me and she said well you can't have that

but I can do something else for you if you can find something else that would make

you happy and something happened inside me when I said I

have Mitch back. And so let's make both of those things be true. And that was one

of the first times that I talked to a friend of mine who was a chaplain and he

said that. Like two things can be true at the same time. Like you can be

devastated and lost and have grief that'll never go away. And you can also find

purpose and meaning and hope again. And that's really when I, one of the things

that made me start writing again at that time was to think that I can't

necessarily, I can't

that maybe they can't articulate because they didn't get to go down to that MRI

scanner and watch that happen. Yeah. Right? So for me, that was one of those

moments of, I've got to find some things that I can use to to latch onto as

hopeful and start to move forward. And God gave me that insight in that meeting

that day when there are some things that we think we have to have and we can't

have them. And so once you realize you can't have that, then what is it that you

can have that will start to make things work for you? So I started using the

neuroscience to teach me things that were true and that I could latch onto and use

and leverage, and that started making me be able to move forward. It really is.

Whatever is good, whatever is beautiful, whatever is true, think on that. It really

is. That's incredibly powerful. How does this self -brain surgery affect us

spiritually? And for those who part of their journey is disappointment with God or a

feeling of distance from God, how can this help us spiritually and maybe even share

how it helped you? Yeah. So the first thing is If you understand that we're talking

about principles of how the human brain works. Yes. And that the mind and the brain

are not the same thing. But even if you think they are, it's been proven with good

neuroscience, Andrew Newberg's books, and all these people who aren't really spiritual

can show that spiritual practices make the brain behave and work better, more

resilient and all those things. So even if you're not sure what you believe or you

don't believe anything or you're pretty mad at God and you're not sure that he's

going to be willing to help you, you can leverage the fact that the brain is

designed to get better in response to better thinking. And you can say, well, I

want to be more hopeful. I want to recover from this trauma. I want to find some

things that do work for me. You can use this process of, okay, I'm going to think

different thoughts than I thought yesterday that will produce structural changes in my

brain and my brain will work differently than it did yesterday. and that will prove

to be helpful to me, and I'll start to be moving forward. And then I would just

say, if you find that the principle works and that the prescription that scripture

wrote for how humans can flourish, take your thoughts captive, be transformed and

don't conform, all those things. Ephesians 423 talks about, or 417 through 23 talks

about the difference between people who are lost in their bad thinking. He calls it

futility of their thinking and people who have renewed minds and how the difference

is. And so if you can just say, okay, even if I don't really think God likes me

or maybe he's not real, I can let this scripture stand on its own and say, if I

follow this prescription, the neuroscience backs it up and I actually feel better

when I do these things. And so then I would just invite you to say, I start doing

these practices of taking my thoughts captive and start to apply these prescriptions

and the Ten Commandments and all the things I gave you in the book. And it starts

working and you start feeling more hopeful and you start finding yourself more

resilient and a little bit more peaceful. Then maybe say, wait a minute, if God's

words turn out to be true and this starts to actually work for me, then maybe my

perception and my thoughts and my feelings about him weren't actually accurate. Yeah.

And maybe I should investigate that. Yeah. And then it starts to turn out that the

promises that he made turn out to be true. Yeah. Then maybe I just need to

reevaluate my feelings since I know most of them are accurate. Yeah, I love that.

It reminds me in psychology, we talk about top -down approaches and bottom -up

approaches. So the top -down approach would be to try to get the feeling good again

about God. But the bottom up is just practice it and see if you if you arrive at

the reality of God's goodness from that bottom up. Right. You talk about Lee that

this kind of, and I agree with you, when this psychology and neuroscience and

theology and physics all come together, there's something really seismic,

right? We're not compartmentalizing anymore. And that's the sense when I listen to

you, this becomes spiritual. And sometimes we think of, well, there's my spiritual

practices over here and then there's my mental health habits over here. And that's

part of this bifurcation you were talking about. You know, I was raised in that

medical model, right? Of like the psyche is no longer the soul. It's the mind.

You know, it's over here. And then my spiritual practices are over here. And what

you're describing is that all of this is coming together. Can you break that down a

little bit like what does that collision look like in someone where all of those

things begin to work together? Yeah, I think if you just are a curious person and

you start looking at how things seem to be working, we look at the last 75 years

of biology, for example, since Washington and Crick gave us the structure of DNA.

It's become harder and harder and harder for evolutionary biologists to believe that

it was all some sort of an accident, that it could have, that protein structure and

all the different things that happened could have turned out to have happened

randomly, right? Harder and harder over time to believe that there wasn't design

behind that. Cosmology, since they discovered the Big Bang that the universe actually

did have a beginning. Physicists and cosmologists are having a very hard time

explaining away the needs.

the research start to show you don't actually get happier. You get more trouble. You

have more unwanted pregnancies, more divorces, more STDs, all that stuff. And maybe

people are happier when they're in committed long -term relationships, right? So you

see, okay, now psychology is saying that this prescription turns out to be better a

certain way, right? Then so if you just start being curious about that and say, why

would it be that everything that The spiritual side said all along is seeming to be

borne out on the scientific hard and soft sciences over time. Then you start saying,

well, there's this great synthesis happening. And when I operate my mind according

to, when I operate my life, rather, according to principles that are scientifically

valid, hold up according to good psychological principles, and seem to line up with

spiritual directives that have been prescribed for thousands of years, and my life

gets better, maybe that's because it's all true. And so for me, it was just this

big moment where I said, wait a minute, everything I've believed and practiced

scientifically was sort of skewed because I thought this materialist, I was trained

in this materialist worldview where you're just the sum of your parts, but I never

really believed that. So I had this cognitive dissonance spiritually and

scientifically, and now I'm seeing, wait, the science is now showing us that

materialism is probably not the right path. Yes. Because you can see in an MRI

scanner that mind is in charge of brain. Yeah. And so that's for me that just sort

of meshed it all up and it finally closed the gap that was still there between

what I thought I had to believe and teach as a scientist and what I knew, what I

was believing and hoping to be true spiritually. And now it's just all this

incredible unity that everything, it's this cool verse in Ecclesiastes 311 that says,

God said eternity in the human.

something out, there's going to be another layer underneath it. And that's what

science has now discovered. Yes. Molecular biology discovers the unit protein and they

discover there's 25 molecules that make up that. It's amazing. And now we've got 25

more things to study. Quantum physics is doing that. We think we've understood the

three elemental particles in the universe and now we know that all of them have

elemental particles that make them up. And now there's something like, what, 25

particles or something that they understand? So every time we think we understand

something, God says, hang on a second. Yeah, exactly. Let me show you something

cool, right? So for me, it's just that don't be discouraged by things that you

thought were going to work that didn't turn out to work. Yeah. Be curious and let

God show you over time that he's got more to the story that even if you think

that there's no hope for you that you've found the last medicine to try or the

last therapy to try or the last thing, just hang in there because something's going

to happen and God's going to show you that he does still have a good plan for

you. I love that. I just love that. There's such a humility in it, really, of

there's a humility. And even when I think to the self -brain surgery, like, just in

recognizing my own reactions, my own thoughts, like there's such a humility to go

hold them loosely, be discerning, look for the truth in all things.

And the truth really does set us free. Just as we close, for the person listening

who is carrying something.

for folks who really feel like they've tried everything and really feel like what

they're carrying is too big. I think the last thing I can say is that you need to

just believe with all your heart that nothing that you go through or experience has

inherent power to determine what your future is because it turns out it doesn't,

it's not about at all what happened in the past it's about what happens next

because your brain can change structurally in response to every new thought that

means that how things have been for you do not have to be how things are for you

in the future and so that means get help if you need it read one of allison's

books listen to a podcast find a pastor find a therapist find somebody to help you

reframe the the thing that you've been carrying i love how gabermate said it um

it's not Yeah.

to define you. Yeah. You can change that with your very next thought. That's

incredible.

The life -changing art of self -brain surgery. It's a beautiful book, Lee,

and I just, hard -earned wisdom. Tell everyone where they can find it and where they

can find more information about you and your work. I know you're doing a lot of

different things to serve people. Yeah, so my website is Dr. Lee Warren .com.

Just all one word, d .R .leeworn .com.

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